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		<title>By: Phill Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://www.elpassoblog.com/why-1-1-internet-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-68072</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfair Buisness Practice

According to 1&amp;1 own T&amp;C you can terminate the contract by putting it in writing. In August last year I did because due to the economic down turn my company had ceased trading and was de-solved, not owing anyone I might add. Also as the company had ceased trading I no longer had access to the email address that I set the account up in. 

After not hearing from 1&amp;1 I chased it up with an email, as per their T&amp;C what then followed was 3 months of 1&amp;1giving me the wrong information and the even told me it was cancelled in the end I told them I had fished with them and I did not want any more to do with them. 

In April this year I was contacted by Arvarto Finance Services not only for this account but also for another account, another month went by of me explaining why I did not owe the money. I am the informed that I don’t owe the money on one of the accounts. They were however perusing me for the other one. I took some legal advice and wrote to both 1&amp;1 and Arvarto Finance telling them I did not owe the money and to stop bully in me and if they did not respond within 10 days I would consider the mater closed. 2 months pass and nothing then Arvarto finance contact me again I am now in dispute with 1&amp;1 for £30.00. 

Recently I received a letter from H L LEGAL &amp; Collections in association with Sampson &amp; Co they have now given me 7 day and have threatened me with court action. I rang H L LEGAL and funnily enough they knew nothing of the case. This raised my suspicions I was finally passed through to a Mr Carl Wiltshire who not only told me he was a solicitor but I think he also told me it was his family business. Mr Carl Wiltshire then told me that his company did not send the letter but I think he said the company name was licensed to Arvarto Finance. I told him I thought that it was illegal to do that as I felt that the letter did not make it clear who the company was or their roll with Arvarto Finance As it is unfair to communicate, in whatever form, with consumers in an unclear, inaccurate or a misleading manner. Also it is wrong for companies to ignore disputes about whether you owe the money and refuse to freeze action if you dispute the dept.

I sent Mr Carl Wiltshire the information and he emailed it to Arvarto Finance.

Phill Sylvester</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfair Buisness Practice</p>
<p>According to 1&amp;1 own T&amp;C you can terminate the contract by putting it in writing. In August last year I did because due to the economic down turn my company had ceased trading and was de-solved, not owing anyone I might add. Also as the company had ceased trading I no longer had access to the email address that I set the account up in. </p>
<p>After not hearing from 1&amp;1 I chased it up with an email, as per their T&amp;C what then followed was 3 months of 1&amp;1giving me the wrong information and the even told me it was cancelled in the end I told them I had fished with them and I did not want any more to do with them. </p>
<p>In April this year I was contacted by Arvarto Finance Services not only for this account but also for another account, another month went by of me explaining why I did not owe the money. I am the informed that I don’t owe the money on one of the accounts. They were however perusing me for the other one. I took some legal advice and wrote to both 1&amp;1 and Arvarto Finance telling them I did not owe the money and to stop bully in me and if they did not respond within 10 days I would consider the mater closed. 2 months pass and nothing then Arvarto finance contact me again I am now in dispute with 1&amp;1 for £30.00. </p>
<p>Recently I received a letter from H L LEGAL &amp; Collections in association with Sampson &amp; Co they have now given me 7 day and have threatened me with court action. I rang H L LEGAL and funnily enough they knew nothing of the case. This raised my suspicions I was finally passed through to a Mr Carl Wiltshire who not only told me he was a solicitor but I think he also told me it was his family business. Mr Carl Wiltshire then told me that his company did not send the letter but I think he said the company name was licensed to Arvarto Finance. I told him I thought that it was illegal to do that as I felt that the letter did not make it clear who the company was or their roll with Arvarto Finance As it is unfair to communicate, in whatever form, with consumers in an unclear, inaccurate or a misleading manner. Also it is wrong for companies to ignore disputes about whether you owe the money and refuse to freeze action if you dispute the dept.</p>
<p>I sent Mr Carl Wiltshire the information and he emailed it to Arvarto Finance.</p>
<p>Phill Sylvester</p>
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		<title>By: Big Head</title>
		<link>http://www.elpassoblog.com/why-1-1-internet-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-56210</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You idiots paying bills that you don&#039;t even owe because &quot;it really wasn’t worth the hassle&quot; are what keeps scumbags like this in business. 

Like it&#039;s a real hassle to hang up a phone.  Maybe I&#039;ll look up your phone number via whois and call you for a couple bucks next time I feel like going out for a pint.

Better yet I&#039;ll get my friends wife to call... she&#039;s way more annoying than me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You idiots paying bills that you don&#8217;t even owe because &#8220;it really wasn’t worth the hassle&#8221; are what keeps scumbags like this in business. </p>
<p>Like it&#8217;s a real hassle to hang up a phone.  Maybe I&#8217;ll look up your phone number via whois and call you for a couple bucks next time I feel like going out for a pint.</p>
<p>Better yet I&#8217;ll get my friends wife to call&#8230; she&#8217;s way more annoying than me.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hazell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Hazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1&amp;1 and criminals and should hang their heads in shame.  I have the letter from them and their henchmen Arvato Finance for £11.88 

BEWARE anyone who has a service with 1&amp;1 and think everything is fine.. You wait to the day when you want to cancel...

They set the baliffs on you for stupid amounts of money. They know most people pay up because its not worth the hassle.

These people are PIGS because what other company automatically charges you for another year? Most send you an Invoice then wait for payment. No payment? No service. You dont send the baliffs.  That is just plain sick.

So my warning to ANYONE with a 1&amp;1 account is that their company Arvato Finance is just round the corner and they will come knocking at your door with letters.  If you are like me and an honest person can you imagine how you feel when you open a letter with the words &quot;recover debt&quot; and &quot;formally persue&quot; and &quot;to halt this process..&quot; and &quot;Instructed by Creditor to persue...&quot;  NICE.

As a law abiding person I bet you would HATE that landing on your doormat.  It would frighten you.  Think of all the times in your life where you have never bothered to renew something.  Insurance, Magazine subscription, Clubs. 

Also the get out of jail card (cancel your account) is so cumbersome with 1&amp;1 that it is deliberately designed to fail at multiple points to include:
1) Not being easy to find
2) Multiple pages
3) Buttons hidden at bottom of pages
4) Extra screens saying &quot;are you sure...&quot;
5) Email validation
6) Non arriving emails to put the final nail in.

This is fraud.  Pure and simple.

Richard Hazell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1&amp;1 and criminals and should hang their heads in shame.  I have the letter from them and their henchmen Arvato Finance for £11.88 </p>
<p>BEWARE anyone who has a service with 1&amp;1 and think everything is fine.. You wait to the day when you want to cancel&#8230;</p>
<p>They set the baliffs on you for stupid amounts of money. They know most people pay up because its not worth the hassle.</p>
<p>These people are PIGS because what other company automatically charges you for another year? Most send you an Invoice then wait for payment. No payment? No service. You dont send the baliffs.  That is just plain sick.</p>
<p>So my warning to ANYONE with a 1&amp;1 account is that their company Arvato Finance is just round the corner and they will come knocking at your door with letters.  If you are like me and an honest person can you imagine how you feel when you open a letter with the words &#8220;recover debt&#8221; and &#8220;formally persue&#8221; and &#8220;to halt this process..&#8221; and &#8220;Instructed by Creditor to persue&#8230;&#8221;  NICE.</p>
<p>As a law abiding person I bet you would HATE that landing on your doormat.  It would frighten you.  Think of all the times in your life where you have never bothered to renew something.  Insurance, Magazine subscription, Clubs. </p>
<p>Also the get out of jail card (cancel your account) is so cumbersome with 1&amp;1 that it is deliberately designed to fail at multiple points to include:<br />
1) Not being easy to find<br />
2) Multiple pages<br />
3) Buttons hidden at bottom of pages<br />
4) Extra screens saying &#8220;are you sure&#8230;&#8221;<br />
5) Email validation<br />
6) Non arriving emails to put the final nail in.</p>
<p>This is fraud.  Pure and simple.</p>
<p>Richard Hazell.</p>
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		<title>By: 1and1 Review &#124; Worst Web Host Ever? &#124; Dan Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.elpassoblog.com/why-1-1-internet-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-24174</link>
		<dc:creator>1and1 Review &#124; Worst Web Host Ever? &#124; Dan Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finance, demanding we paid them £9.68 for an un-paid domain name. I go into full detail about this on my blog, so head on over there if you want more information on Arvato Finances connection with 1and1 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finance, demanding we paid them £9.68 for an un-paid domain name. I go into full detail about this on my blog, so head on over there if you want more information on Arvato Finances connection with 1and1 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a letter from them askig for £700 plus a further £5 charge for late payment.  Does not say what it is for or anything and I havnt had any previous correspondence from them

I have emailed the collections department requesting more information, copy of the previous correspondence etc

del</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a letter from them askig for £700 plus a further £5 charge for late payment.  Does not say what it is for or anything and I havnt had any previous correspondence from them</p>
<p>I have emailed the collections department requesting more information, copy of the previous correspondence etc</p>
<p>del</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (el_passo)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan (el_passo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
There support is pretty terrible at the best of times, I remember having a 2 week long dispute with the support staff about some of our nameservers that were pointing to the wrong IP.

I even got the ticket escalated but they guy who it was escalated to was even less help than the frontline support staff :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
There support is pretty terrible at the best of times, I remember having a 2 week long dispute with the support staff about some of our nameservers that were pointing to the wrong IP.</p>
<p>I even got the ticket escalated but they guy who it was escalated to was even less help than the frontline support staff <img src='http://www.elpassoblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BILL SCHWAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BILL SCHWAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, i purchased a Domain from 1&amp;1 and uploaded my website. Believe it or not severl months later i checked my site &amp; couldn&#039;t find it. 1&amp;1 had lost my website and couldn&#039;t find it. They hadn&#039;t made a backup of it (neither did I, a good lesson I learned) and I lost my website and they offered no help...they just told me to upload it again.but because of my lag of making a backup I couldn&#039;t do it.
So I had no website running anymore. Trying to work with their support was a nightmare &amp; waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, i purchased a Domain from 1&amp;1 and uploaded my website. Believe it or not severl months later i checked my site &amp; couldn&#8217;t find it. 1&amp;1 had lost my website and couldn&#8217;t find it. They hadn&#8217;t made a backup of it (neither did I, a good lesson I learned) and I lost my website and they offered no help&#8230;they just told me to upload it again.but because of my lag of making a backup I couldn&#8217;t do it.<br />
So I had no website running anymore. Trying to work with their support was a nightmare &amp; waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: John Szram</title>
		<link>http://www.elpassoblog.com/why-1-1-internet-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-8398</link>
		<dc:creator>John Szram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with 1and1 and like Randy, have so far, (touch wood) not had any problems.

However, I&#039;ve heard many things that make me nervous about staying with their company. Two thirds of my domains are held elsewhere so hopefully it won&#039;t be too painful to move once my contract expires (next year!)

Plus I want cPanel and fantastico... :)

John Szram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with 1and1 and like Randy, have so far, (touch wood) not had any problems.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve heard many things that make me nervous about staying with their company. Two thirds of my domains are held elsewhere so hopefully it won&#8217;t be too painful to move once my contract expires (next year!)</p>
<p>Plus I want cPanel and fantastico&#8230; <img src='http://www.elpassoblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>John Szram</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve known for awhile now that you were funny but you and Omar together that would be a riot.

I am sure it is nice to have such a wicked sense of humor and be so intelligent also.

I wonder to whom you will change your hosting.

Carol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known for awhile now that you were funny but you and Omar together that would be a riot.</p>
<p>I am sure it is nice to have such a wicked sense of humor and be so intelligent also.</p>
<p>I wonder to whom you will change your hosting.</p>
<p>Carol</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (el_passo)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan (el_passo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Omar, I was going to do a clever reply with some lyrics of the Aerosmith song but my minds gone blank...I&#039;ll have to get the I-Pod out and then come back with an answer!

@ Randy, I think that&#039;s the problem when you have so many domains with 1 company, it&#039;s a pain in the arse to move them all, but they&#039;ve annoyed me so much that I&#039;m going to be moving just about all of mine away from 1&amp;1. It will cost a lot in transfer fee&#039;s but I think it will be worth it, can you imagine if a card expired and you didn&#039;t update it, you could risk losing all the domains you have with them :-(

@ Everyone else, thanks for sharing your comments. I saw a lot of people on Google that had the same problems with 1&amp;1 but I never thought so many of my readers would have had the same experience, just goes to show you how widespread the problem is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Omar, I was going to do a clever reply with some lyrics of the Aerosmith song but my minds gone blank&#8230;I&#8217;ll have to get the I-Pod out and then come back with an answer!</p>
<p>@ Randy, I think that&#8217;s the problem when you have so many domains with 1 company, it&#8217;s a pain in the arse to move them all, but they&#8217;ve annoyed me so much that I&#8217;m going to be moving just about all of mine away from 1&#038;1. It will cost a lot in transfer fee&#8217;s but I think it will be worth it, can you imagine if a card expired and you didn&#8217;t update it, you could risk losing all the domains you have with them <img src='http://www.elpassoblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Everyone else, thanks for sharing your comments. I saw a lot of people on Google that had the same problems with 1&#038;1 but I never thought so many of my readers would have had the same experience, just goes to show you how widespread the problem is.</p>
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